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Damian Green 在质询时提出要对Human Right Act 进行review.假如英国退出欧洲人权法案,十年永居的法律根底面临隐没.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/8307782/UK-should-withdraw-from-European-Court-of-Human-Rights.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co妹妹entators/ben-e妹妹erson-the-european-court-of-human-rights-enhances-our-democracy-2207503.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/20十一/02/07/britain-must-think-about-quitting-european-court-over-issue-of-prisoner-voting-says-lord-hoffmann-十一5875-22904545/
UK ‘should withdraw from European Court of Human Rights’
The Government should consider withdrawing Britain from the European Court of Human Rights, an influential think tank said.
The centre-right Policy Exchange called for the UK to open negotiations over the efficiency of the Strasbourg court and the ‘‘judicial competence’’ of its judges.
Failure to achieve substantial progress within two years should lead Britain to pull out and allow the Supreme Court to adjudicate on human rights cases, it said.
The call, in a report published today, comes as the Government is wrestling with a ruling from the Strasbourg court that prisoners must be granted the vote.
The highly controversial issue will come to a head in the House of Co妹妹ons on Thursday when MPs will debate and vote on the issue.
Prime Minister David Cameron has said that giving prisoners the vote makes him feel ‘‘physically ill’’ but the Government must act or it will face compensation claims from inmates adding up to more than £100 million. The Policy Exchange’s reco妹妹endations are endorsed by former law lord Lord Hoffmann, who wrote in the foreword to the report that seeking to repatriate human rights law was ‘‘worth a try’’.
‘‘International institutions which are set up by everyone become in practice answerable to no one, and courts have an age-old tendency to try to enlarge their jurisdictions,’’ he said.
‘‘And so the Strasbourg court had taken upon itself an extraordinary power to micromanage the legal systems of the member states of the Council of Europe (or at any rate those which pay attention to its decisions) culminating, for the moment, in its decision that the UK is not entitled to have a law that convicted prisoners lose, among other freedoms, the right to vote.’’
The Policy Exchange report, written by Michael Pinto-Duschinsky, reco妹妹ended that the UK should open negotiations with the Council of Europe to make ‘‘substantial reforms to the way that the court is run and its caseload managed’’.
‘‘Such reforms would include new procedures to assure the judicial competence of new judges and the greater efficiency of the court,’’ he said.
‘‘The negotiations would seek to find agreed ways to ensure that the judges at Strasbourg give greater discretion to the domestic judges of each member state.’’
Dr Pinto-Duschinsky said the negotiations should be limited to no more than two years.
''If such negotiations are unsuccessful, the UK should consider withdrawing from the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg and establishing the Supreme Court in London as the final appellate court for human rights law.
''In that case, the UK would continue to incorporate the European Convention on Human Rights into its domestic law.
Contrary to what has been stated by some opponents of such a reform, it is our conclusion that there is strong evidence to suggest that the UK’s membership of the European Union and of the Council of Europe does not require continued adherence to the judgments of the European Court of Human Rights should the UK opt for such a withdrawal.’’
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标题党又来了,在HO民间网站公布任何动静以前,任何传言都不成靠.
信HO才是霸道
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呐喊应该是摸索性的,看看反响
假如支持声响弱小,应该也不会完成
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这虽然是个旧事，但也是一个信号，最少反应了英国一部份人的设法。
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假如要实行最少应该全民投票。不外大部份英国人应该都感觉是外来移民抢了他们饭碗。真全民投票的话难说不会经过。
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这集体比来一段常常在这里颁发这类扰乱人心的舆论。
都是以惊心动魄的标题吸引大家的目光，绝对是华人中介的一个市场营销伎俩。
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虽然说LZ多是哗众取宠
然而所转达的信息也的确标明了一定的景象
所谓无风不起浪,LZ的转载的确来自英国各大媒体,要知道英国媒体也算世界上首屈一指的媒体了,得多事件都是他们先爆料出来的
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Just threaten to withdraw support for the European Court of Human Rights over the issue of prisoner voting
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旧事和10年不冲突
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LZ这么喜爱危言耸听, 要不开一个专版给你发帖好吗?
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这个旧事不是说囚犯有无公民权的问题吗？莫非咱们都是囚犯？
不外假如是彻底脱离欧洲人权法，那确实是根底就没有了。。。。。观望一下。。。。等候高人解答。
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怎么脱离欧洲人权法? Human Rights Act 1998就是欧洲人权条约在英国的详细法律体现啊… 除非修正1998人权法或者彻底废除咯.
假如英国真的为了管制移民而修正或废除人权法, 估量这个国度也快分开EU了, BNP下台执政的日子也不远了, 一切非英国原始居民的直属后嗣和非白人也能够筹备拾掇拾掇打包分开英国了.
你感觉这届政府会冒这么微风险吗? 现任首相是纳粹份子吗?
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i did see this anti-prison voting report on paper yesterday ,and nothing be mentioned relate to 10 yeras.and no surpeise that Mr.64 disclose it with the anylsis relate to 10 years today.
in my opion:
Humen right did override legal system,but in the previouse case as followed:
during 70-80s,if the baby was borm in uk,they eligible for the uk resident according to humen right ,and after the time period ,this police was legally cancelled by Thatcher gov.
therefore,i do believe uk gov intent to get rid of the area of europe humen right for their own purpose which we all know.but at least it takes a long precedure to achieve.
it is better that all the information are welcome to share here without any subjective word.
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其实，我也感觉这个法案修正的话，不太可能，波及到的其它法律方面的配景真实是太多了。
不外，话说回来，这个法案就算是不履行，Home Office仍是有方法的：严格卡住请求关。之前一些不置可否的case状况，能够让你失掉PR的，当初就求全责备，十分容易地fail你。
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这个 楼主 64yw 有Bing, 老缠着这个话题不放， 你是律师行雇佣来散播谎言的，仍是见不得他人能办十年 永居，就算哪怕有一天十年永居真勾销了，就算他人真办不了，你就因此而暗喜 ？ 假如是这样，你真要看看psychologist了！
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连我也忍不住发个言了，这个叫64的人，也能够出国吗？他是个法盲仍是文盲！怪不得愈来愈多的人都不看好留先生了！这样无知的人居然还能够开个帖子，散播动静，太好笑了！中国人应该团结，而不是气人有，笑人无！他的心态就是一个小市民呐！
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